I gotta agree with davehytmen, But I do understand how people can be attracted to arguable "shitty art" like tram param (IMO) and such is because they haven't been looking at an excessive amount of hentai to get a real understanding of what is arguable good and what is not. I say this because I was the same way when I first started to look at hentai. Basically anything looked good to me, but as the years went by, I went to go look at the pics that I once though of as super great and though that they were kinda shitty drawing. What is shitty can also be very debatable, since I like artists like Gerph because of his thick art line drawing and bright colors, along with not trying to make it look realistic at all, but other people could look at his art and call it simple and shoddy. I still have to agree with davehytman with those fanchises, because I usually see those kind of franchises getting shitty hentai drawn for them (IMO).