oGtRaMmAsTeR420
08/27/12 09:36PM
fair enough
alaron said:
All right. A few things to address. (Hopefully in a more calm manner).

First and foremost: There's constantly the mention of bugs and errors on the website. Question one: What are these errors, show them to me, let me and Slayerduck see them. Question two: What do you think you can do with errors as a Moderator?

Second: The reason why we're not just randomly handing out bans to people is because people tend to get greedy when they get power. You're gonna get moderator, then what? What exactly will you do, put down a list of things, SPECIFIC THINGS, and we'll continue from there.

Let's assume you and dave get mod rights. What comes out of it? The request for more rights (admin rights), what comes after that? The blatant abuse of said rights because of certain people you dislike.

Do you know why I am a mod? (admin/mod/guy that helps slayerduck/ w/e u wanna call it) ...? Do you know? Because I know Slayerduck, because he knows me. We know neither of you, I can't give you the power to run ("run" is an exaggeration) the website and risk losing users because let's face it, dave and you have haters within the community.

I can play the "boss card" and lock all these topics, ban you all and just dig in the entire issues. You know WHY I am not doing it? Because I care.

I shouldn't even be explaining myself to all of you but I'm doing it out of decency.

Let's leave it at that and the question I put above: if I do give the two of you Moderator rights what will you do with them. A list with accurate and specific points. We'll continue this conversation from there.

Quick edit: To the aforementioned list add a list of the bugs that you are all mentioning. Again, detailed and clearly outlined.

Alaron,
Xbooru Admin




I don't know what bugs other people are talking about,but for me the only one I can think of is the search being overloaded,I know not really much of an issue.

And as far as mod rights,I wouldn't abuse any kind of "power" it's just a website,no reason to go on a power trip in any way.But if I were a mod,I'd basically do what I do now,make sure no pics against the rules or posted,no re-posts,no spam,and make sure trolls (with accounts not annons) are banned on the spot.

I would suggest removing anonymous all together,but trolls have no lives and would just make an account to troll.

I wouldn't abuse those rights,I'd stay unbiased and stay by the rules,which not many people seem to know or care about.There are no users I dislike anyways,unless it's a troll.

At the end of the day,it's up to you,you run the site,and if you don't want to make me or dave a mod,fine. But just letting you know we could help,and you know this is true because we've been helping for quite sometime,you could say we're the eyes and ears of this site lol

list of bugs/annoying things:

the search is overloaded

please get rid of the "a few keystrokes may make the comment interesting" that's just annoying :p

I don't know why sometimes if I try and upload an image that's already here,it says that it's here,but yet a TON of re-posts are still posted.
unknowmoney23
08/27/12 10:49PM
i knew it!
Hahahahahahah ok ok I'm so sorry about this whole freaking mess, there some few thing to not discuss and to piss someone off. So that my way of saying "I'm sorry" and I apologize too. But hahahahaha
davehytmen
08/28/12 01:10AM
"Abuse "The Power""
Alaron, all I'd do with the ability to Moderate this booru is to do exactly that; Moderate it. Much like I've been doing anyway, along side oGtRaMmAsTeR420; I'd remove reposts & spam. Keep check on the trolls, (As oGtRaMmAsTeR420 stated and I've stated before you should get rid of the anonymous users it's a gate way to trolls) make sure the rules are followed; tags are correct and not screwed with on a daily basis.

We've reported a lot to you anyways, so we evidently know what we're doing; so why not give us the ability to keep the site in check since you & slayerduck aren't able to.
alaron
08/28/12 09:58AM
You two base your arguments on the "You and Slayerduck don't keep the site in check." How exactly is that true?

Both of you are saying that you'll take care of the trolls. This is the simple reason of why you don't have moderator - I don't trust you with taking care of the trolls. And since you're already doing the job why do you require a fancy title next to your name. The report lists are empty at the moment so you are in a way doing part of the job already.

I'll go through your lists in a more direct way:

Taking care of the trolls - you're not the one to make this decision, even if you were here for 10 years.
Removing re-posts and spam - I do that. No need for 10 people doing it. Report it, it goes A LOOOOOOOOOOOONG way.

Tags can be edited by any user, you don't need moderator to take care of tags.

Rules being followed is the same as the first point. You're not the one to make that call...Hell, even I'm not the one to make it, I started moderating this because it needed an admin. The owner of gelbooru passed it over to us and some1 had to take care of it.

Search being overloaded is simply search being overloaded. It's not an issue. Refresh if you get that.

You know the website makes revenues, that's obvious. I can't trust people that I don't know to handle the website. :S Sorry.

Alaron,
Xbooru Admin
unknowmoney23
08/28/12 03:08PM
All right, all right. Alaron made a very good point and I been thinking right now or from last week. I don't want to be admin to this site no more, cause my responsible, and my English vocabulary ain't going to work out. So I'm going to stop about being a admin to this site. I'm going back what I love to do, upload the best picture I can find.
davehytmen
08/28/12 07:46PM
Yes because being Regulars upon this website basically equals up to nothing
Paranoia brings a lot of ships down you do realize this, as for "Any User can edit the tags" that is the issue; nobody besides very few of us are and most of the people "Correcting" the tags are screwing with them.

How large is the "Delete_Me","Report_Me", ect tags on Xbooru from the days back when we allowed Anon's to troll the Booru?

How many uploads have slipped through the cracks simple because everyone has it added to their blacklist (Example: Horribly drawn muscular five year old uploads)?

I like how you say the report system is perfect to use, because I've had to repeatedly actually send you messages to report users & Uploads.

Forgive me, when was "Moderator" a fancy title? Do you actually want this site to get better, I notice you noted you could ban both of us and "Be done with the whole thing"; hypocritical coming from someone who comments on "Abuse of power".

As for the rules, how can you not guideline the rules it's very simple; I just noticed you deleted the "Do not upload" page as well (Or at least I can't get to it).

To put it plainly, all Slayerduck does it make comments defending you and all you do is make comments on how you know slayerduck; then excuse yourself from anything with the odd excuse that nobody is "Reporting" anything. Even when I've stated before, I've had to send you a direct message to get you to deal with something; The Secretary informing the higher end boss reference I stated before isn't a far off stretch of what goes on.

Now if someone could explain to me, how to make another Booru like Xbooru instead of the other more unfriendly userbased Boorus I'd thankfully let you run you're Booru as you please and make my own; but since nobody has yet to do such that I'll help this Booru as best I can.

All I was getting at was having me a Regular to Mod Re-posts, Spam, Troll and tags daily would make this site a lot better. You've even admitted yourself you only get on here once a week, if that usually; that is not how a website is run.
slayerduck
08/28/12 08:14PM
davehytmen said:
blablabla


you can make your own booru at booru.org

btw i still haven't found any good lulu porn on here, someone upload it ?
VampireWicked
08/28/12 11:09PM
Nice i hate the any users can tag anything but i like the admin's reply.
starblind95
08/29/12 12:21AM
LoL, Just because you visit a website regularly doesn't mean you should be in charge. I go to subway a lot but does that mean I should be a manager? I don't think so.

Side note, I will get right on that slayerduck. xD
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